Friday, December 30, 2005

New Creation Watch Column

If you're just dying to know what Judge Jones actually wrote in his 139 page opinion, but for some reason you don't want to slog through the whole thing, feel free to have a look at my Cliff's Notes version. I go through the entire opinion, summarizing every major point from page one to page 139. Enjoy!

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At 11:27 PM, Anonymous Malcolm Tattersall said...

Well done!
Thanks.

 
At 11:30 AM, Anonymous Kevn from NYC said...

Happy New Year....

 
At 2:04 PM, Anonymous Colin Purrington said...

Great summary, but I really think you should include Jones's phrase "breathtaking inanity" somewhere in your version.

 
At 2:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If as you and the Consitution say, Creationism/ID is to be scientifically disregarded;
AND
if the currently held "Darwin's" Theory of Evolution which was more correctly titled The Survival of the Fittest through Natural Selection; a title consisting of phrases plagiarised from works by Herbert Spencer and Patrick Matthew in 1831; is still a theory
And
given that Spencer, Matthew, A.R.Wallace, Lyell, Hooker and FINALLY, after 28 years of slow work, Darwin were all looking to explain the reason for the existence of life on the planet
And
given that Darwin writes in his conclusion; "Although I am fully convinced of the truth of the views given in this volume under the form of an abstract, I by no means expect to convince experienced naturalists whose minds are stocked with a multitude of facts all viewed, during a long course of years, from a point of view directly opposed to mine. It is so easy to hide our ignorance under such expressions as plan of creation, unity of design, etc. and to think that we give an explanation when we only re-state a fact. Anyone whose disposition leads him to attach more weight to unexplained difficulties than to the explanation of a certain number of facts will certainly reject the theory... but I look with confidence to the future to young and rising naturalists who will be able to view both sides of the question with impartiality. Whoever is led to believe that species are immutable will do good service by conscientiously expressing his conviction; for thus only can the load of prejudice by which this subject is overwhelmed be removed."

THEN
what other hypotheses have been proposed to explain the abundance/diversity of life? that ARE allowed to be taught in schools to allow this impartiality - as opposed to being taught only ONE theory?

 
At 1:45 PM, Anonymous Kevin from NYC said...

well you wouldn't leave your name anon as you would be subject to ridicule.....

what other theories exist? ID is not a theory...it is a wish and a prayer..

and what are you trying to do with your quote? Darwin says here that people who choose to believe fairy tales rather than facts will oppose his theory....true enough...

and you bold some words
[quote]
but I look with confidence to the future to young and rising naturalists who will be able to view [bold]both[/bold] sides of the question with [bold]impartiality[/bold]. Whoever is led to believe that species are immutable will do good service by conscientiously expressing his conviction; for thus only can the load of prejudice by which this subject is overwhelmed be removed."
[/quote]

and seem to think it supports teaching fake science to school kids but it means JUST THE OPPOSITE.

It means look at both sides and realise that evolution is the only scientific and logical explaination for the facts. and then go teach it.
"what other hypotheses have been proposed to explain the abundance/diversity of life? that ARE allowed to be taught in schools to allow this impartiality - as opposed to being taught only ONE theory?
"

none, none and none. We currently have only ONE theory. Lamarkian ideas have failed.

There is another theory on what drives evolution. The idea that viruses play a large part in the evolution of animals and plants for the PURPOSE of ensuring their own survival. Yikes what if the "intelligent designer" is a bit of viral DNA? more likely than the invisible guy in the sky don't cha think?

This theory is not yet developed enough for elementary, high-school and intro college students but should be investigated by graduate students.

 
At 5:55 PM, Anonymous Fred said...

Hey "anonymous," your "is still a theory" comment cracks me up. It shows how little you know. Evolution will ALWAYS be a theory. The term theory has NOTHING TO DO with whether it's a fact or not. Basically, in the science world, "theory" is the same as the word "explanation" (that's simplifying it a bit though). Something isn't "a theory until it's proven."

If you can't even understand that, how do you expect to understand anything else?

But thanks for playing.

 
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