Monday, August 22, 2005

Casserley on Creationism

While in Washington this weekend I took a browse through Second Story Books in Dupont Circle. I came across a book entitled The Christian in Philosophy by J. V. Langmead Casserley, identified on the book flap as “Rector of Manhead, near Exeter, and also Lecturer in Sociology at University College, Exeter.” If I have interpreted the Roman numerals correctly, the book was published in 1949.

It didn't look like my kind of book, but on a whim I decided to look up “Darwin” in the index. I quickly came across the following quote:


Not until Darwin and the triumph of the new evolutionary biology was it possible to fulfil the intellectual expectations aroused by the theological idea of the Divine Agent of creation who is `always being begotten' in the scientific picture of an `open' creation which is always being created. It is true that evolutionary biology was not accepted with proper and becoming gratitude by theologians who seemed more concerned to uphold the preposterous, and superfluous, hypothesis of the historicity of biblical myth than to illustrate and verify the truth of Christian dogma in new fields of inquiry, but we should not allow their ineptitude to conceal from us the real ancestry and theological affinities of the idea of evolution. (Emphasis in Original)


Damn straight. I don't see those theological affinties myself, but I have no objection to others seeing things this way.

I bought the book.

5 Comments:

At 9:23 PM, Blogger Nebraska BlogGrass said...

I think this backs up my argument that the debate should be shifted out of science and into philosophy and other branches of the humanities. (Comment filed under "Chess in Washington.")

 
At 1:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just read your article on the teaching of ID in schools, and noticed something interesting in what you said:

"At no point have they [ID proponents] shown how their theory accounts for the data of the fossil record, or the findings of genetics, or the evidence from embryology, or the data from any other branch of science. Evolution accounts for all that data."

You say evolution accounts for the data in the fossil record? How? Evolution doesn't account for any data or evidence at all, it's just a way to explain what we see. It's interesting how pro-evolution scientists such as yourself are so blindly devoted to your theory that you turn your eye from statistics and probability and conveniently proclaim "it's here, so evolution must have produced it." You talk about "evidence" but then give NO evidence against the idea of a creator, and the fact is that anyone familiar with probabilities KNOWS that the chances that natural selection could have produced the life on earth today is essentially nil. Your yourself admit at much . . . so don't say the burden of proof is on ID. From a rational point of view, the indisputable weight of mathematics insists that EVOLUTIONISTS explain why anyone should believe God was not involved in creation. Evolution would be a far greater miracle than the creating mind of a powerful God.

You have no cause for all your effects. Life is here. What is the cause? Evolution is not a cause, it's a process. If you can come up with a better idea than God, I'd like to hear it.

nathanheinze2000@yahoo.com

 
At 1:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Evolution doesn't account for any data or evidence at all, it's just a way to explain what we see."
Nathan, what else do you want the theory to do?

"You talk about "evidence" but then give NO evidence against the idea of a creator...EVOLUTIONISTS explain why anyone should believe God was not involved in creation."
Nathan, the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. It explains how existing life developed and differentiated into different species, etc.

"Evolution is not a cause, it's a process." True! See my point above.

What amazes me in this debate is how many people are against evolution without understanding the theory. It would help if they read what biologists have to say on the matter. Unfortunately, too many have only read what creationists or ID promoters say.
VKW

 
At 1:52 PM, Blogger Lord Runolfr said...

Somewhat unrelated...

I'm not sure whose side this cartoonist is on...

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20050822/lnq050823.gif

 
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