Saturday, February 12, 2005

Alberts on Behe

Today's New York Times contains another letter in respone to Michael Behe's asinine pro-ID op-ed from Monday's Times. It's author is Bruce Alberts, President of the National Academy of Sciences. We reproduce it in its entirety:


In “Design for Living” (Op-Ed, Feb. 7), Michael J. Behe quoted me, recalling how I discovered that “the chemistry that makes life possible is much more elaborate and sophisticated than anything we students had ever considered” some 40 years ago. Dr. Behe then paraphrases my 1998 remarks that “the entire cell can be viewed as a factory with an elaborate network of interlocking assembly lines, each of which is composed of a set of large protein machines.”

That I was unaware of the complexity of living things as a student should not be surprising. In fact, the majestic chemistry of life should be astounding to everyone. But these facts should not be misrepresented as support for the idea that life's molecular complexity is a result of “intelligent design.” To the contrary, modern scientific views of the molecular organization of life are entirely consistent with spontaneous variation and natural selection driving a powerful evolutionary process.

In evolution, as in all areas of science, our knowledge is incomplete. But the entire success of the scientific enterprise has depended on an insistence that these gaps be filled by natural explanations, logically derived from confirmable evidence. Because “intelligent design” theories are based on supernatural explanations, they can have nothing to do with science.

Bruce Alberts
President
National Academy of Sciences


I'm glad someone finally got around to stating the obvious: that there is nothing in the complexity of biochemical systems to challenge the validity of evolution.

Incidentally, descriptions of biochemical systems as astoundingly complex have always bugged me a little. They remind me a bit of the phrase “quantum weirdness,” which is sometimes used to describe the odd and counterintuitve behavior of various atomic and subatomic particles. Of course, the particles involved don't think they're being weird. They're just doing whatever it is that they do. It seems weird to us only because such particles seem to behave in ways that are very different from what everyday experience teaches us to expect.

So too with biochemical complexity. More complex than we might have expected? Sure. Surprisingly complex? Perhaps. But complex in some absolute sense? Nah. Actually, these systems are so simple that a clumsy, inefficient, lumbering process like natural selection was able to craft them in a few hundred million years. They only seem complex because the practical difficulties involved in figuring out how they work are considerable.

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At 7:33 PM, Blogger Don T. Know said...

The appeal to complexity/mystery marks the end of the pursuit of knowledge. Science, on the other hand, looks upon any "unknowns" as a reason to keep pursuing explanations.

"If God had wanted us to fly, he would have given us wings?"

Is that more likely to have been uttered by an IDer prone to simplification? Or a "naturalistic" scientist eager to understand the world around him?

 
At 8:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alberts: "But the entire success of the scientific enterprise has depended on an insistence that these gaps be filled by natural explanations, logically derived from confirmable evidence. Because “intelligent design” theories are based on supernatural explanations, they can have nothing to do with science."

Ugh. At the risk of repeating myself (well, it's not just a risk--I've said this many times before), dismissing ID on the basis of an arbitrary rule of naturalism is a really bad idea. ID should be rejected because there is no evidence of it, and the arguments of the ID advocates to the contrary are just nonsensical mumbo jumbo.

--Richard Wein

 
At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richard Wein expresses concern over the tactic of dismissing ID because it's supernatural, not science.

I disagree, for both logical and tactical reasons.

First, if there were any evidence for ID, then it would automatically fall withing the science realm, as implied by Alberts.

Second, most Americans appreciate the security and well-being that science has brought to American life and society, and are smart enough to sense the threat of mixing non-science with science.

Calling a spade a spade -- ID is unsupported pseudo-science -- is a very effective tactic.

 
At 1:31 PM, Blogger Doug P. said...

The problem with all you anti-ID people is that you spend so much time bashing it WITHOUT even taking a non-judgemental look at the evidence being presented.

Oh well, at least we ID folks are winning the PR battle for the hearts and minds of the people.

You guys really are fighting a losing battle.

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www.darwinsucks.com

 
At 8:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Calling a spade a spade -- ID is unsupported pseudo-science -- is a very effective tactic."I quite agree that ID is pseudoscience, not science. My objection was to Alberts stated reason for concluding that ID is not science.
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The straight sides of the northern polar hexagon are each approximately 13,800 km (8,600 mi) long, making them larger than the diameter of the Earth.
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The absolute magnitude of the Sun is +4.83; however, as the star closest to Earth, the Sun is the brightest object in the sky with an apparent magnitude of −26.74.[18][19] The Sun's hot corona continuously expands in space creating the solar wind, a stream of charged particles that extends to the heliopause at roughly 100 astronomical units. The bubble in the interstellar medium formed by the solar wind, the heliosphere, is the largest continuous structure in the Solar System.
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The best known feature of Jupiter is the Great Red Spot, a persistent anticyclonic storm that is larger than Earth, located 22° south of the equator. It is known to have been in existence since at least 1831,[46] and possibly since 1665.[47][48] Mathematical models suggest that the storm is stable and may be a permanent feature of the planet.[49] The storm is large enough to be visible through Earth-based telescopes with an aperture of 12 cm or larger.[50]
The oval object rotates counterclockwise, with a period of about six days.[51] The Great Red Spot's dimensions are 24–40,000 km × 12–14,000 km. It is large enough to contain two or three planets of Earth's diameter.[52] The maximum altitude of this storm is about 8 km above the surrounding cloudtops.
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Having watched the evolution wars for some time, the only conclusion I can come to is that the creationists have been slaughtering straw men for so long that they can no longer see the battlefield for all the straw. When you start believing your own lies, you're in big trouble.

 
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Having watched the evolution wars for some time, the only conclusion I can come to is that the creationists have been slaughtering straw men for so long that they can no longer see the battlefield for all the straw. When you start believing your own lies, you're in big trouble.

 
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At 4:51 AM, Blogger Mạnh Hiếu Pro said...

ID on the basis of an arbitrary rule of naturalism is a really bad idea. ID should be rejected because there is no evidence of it
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At 6:11 AM, Blogger Mạnh Hiếu Pro said...

Is that more likely to have been uttered by an IDer prone to simplification? Or a "naturalistic" scientist eager to understand the world around him?


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